WW, I think you got close to spot-on:
It’s NOT ok for someone inside SGM to be raked over such gossipping coals as CJ has penned. So I would edit your conclusion to read that it is OK with CJ if the person is well-known/famous and NOT a member of SGM.

As of the time of CJ’s posting, Tiger had only admitted to transgressions and had not admitted to an affair.

From CJ’s blog:
‘The story has now escalated into allegations of marital infidelity, and that generated a blog post from Tiger that stated, “I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart.” This statement by Tiger has led most to believe that the allegations of infidelity are true.’

Given that, CJ was effectively publishing the gossip. A member of an SGM church (or at least the one we were members of) would have been raked over the coals for posting anything like that about a member of the church. Maybe it is OK with CJ if the person is well-known/famous?

Why is CJ so quick to point out others sins?

Maybe Matthew 7:3 would be a good scriptural reference to give CJ guidance in making his blog posts, maybe John 8:7.

I would love to comment on CJ’s blog. If CJ allowed comments on his blog, I’d be an active participant.

When I posted my original comment, I was unaware of Wood’s confession. Again, the weekend of the accident, the focus of the local media (where Wood’s lives) was on the accident itself. I was personally enlightened by CJ. Perhaps I could be accused of living in a cave, as I haven’t followed the story.

I’m with you on speculation re SGM. I’m against it, as I have stated on this blog.

This is not what CJ is doing…  he is partaking in gossip and sharing it with others, he is not thinking the best about a man he doesn’t know, he is judging him without FACTS from Tiger himself, he is listening to what the media is accusing Tiger of.  And we all know that just because the (secular) media reports something, it doesn’t make it true!

Seems to me like CJ is not taking his own counsel to heart.

And, at least Tiger Woods is owning up to what he has done wrong…  something that CJ hasn’t done, and he’s had many opportunities.  Tiger does not owe any of us an explanation or the details of his life.  He is only accountable to those that are directly affected by his actions…  his wife and family being of most importance.

So…  who is CJ to be casting stones at someone he doesn’t know, not walking in his own teachings and counsel, AND spreading gossip (whether true or not, it doesn’t matter…  he is not part of the problem or the solution!…  AND he has not spoken to Tiger to get his side of the story!…  after all, this is what CJ and SGM teach!!).

CJ has many “things in his life” that he should be “confessing to God and to the appropriate individuals”…  at least ‘fess up and be a man like Tiger has.  Until he does that, he has no business passing judgment on others.

I’m just sayin’, is all…

If it’s wrong to comment on what he’s doing or to speculate, is it not wrong to speculate on SGM ministries?  I’m not talking about what is being revealed by people who have gone through hard times with SGM.  I’m just talking about the speculations and second guessing that goes on afterwards.

The Bible says that “even a child is know by his actions.”  If that’s true, then Woods’ actions are saying quite a lot about the state of his soul.

That’s what the leaven does to the church.  Tiger Woods was judged and condemned without all the facts being known.  Hardly fair or righteous…

And this should leave us more amazed by grace because there, but for the grace of God, go I.

sigh…..look even at the economy of words, and how many are spent seeking sin and how many are focused on Jesus, the Lover of our Souls!
Thanks be to God for so great a salvation!

As for CJ seeking out “secret sins”?? holy cow, if he would just admit to the PUBLIC, exposed sins that are so blatant, so grievous! How great a celebration of the mercy and grace of God would be had! Would CJ also suggest we pray for his wife? (excellent point, Waters!) I’m afraid CJ has has lived so long as “immune” to the sin of gossip, in the name of ‘ministy’ that he has forgotten that Tiger is NONE of his business, not part of his congregation or any SGM congregation! Remember that? that you aren’t gossipping if you are in leadership and feel the need or concern to discuss someone else? ahhh…those were the days…. ;o)

I think it’s truly sad to think of the ‘flesh and blood’ hydrants that CJ has run over or instructed others to do the same. Oh, if only he would take his own advice and consider his own sin before commenting on someone else’s. sigh.

Belated Happy Birthday, Canary.
Jim, Carole, belated anniversary blessings!

As Carole stated: “CJ and his organization have hurt a heck of alot more people than Tiger has…Has he (CJ) issued a remorseful repentant statement?” —Nope, no public admittance of grievous destructive counseling by he and his welltrained pastors college pastors. For all the trumpeting about their own ‘humility’—humility of OPEN repentance is sadly lacking by Sovereign Grace Ministries. And this is utterly alarming—for either they are truly blind…or they are truly so full of pride they will not admit their destructive counseling practices and errored doctrines. If there is no open public renouncement of their many sins against the Brethren, any ‘steps’ they take to rectify their actions is…a whitewash.

Carole, way to post it.  Hope life is going well…:)

I just find this topic amusing!  It seems that CJ himself, after giving “direction” to everyone else on how to respond to the Tiger Woods situation, indulged in gossip mongering himself!  Where did he get his “facts” from…  People magazine?  Or maybe anonymous sources in the media?  Horrors!  Surely not anonymous sources!…  we all know how CJ feels about those that hide behind anonymity!!

Is CJ part of the problem and/or the solution?

Living in the Orlando area (where Tiger Woods lives, btw), the only info Tiger himself has shared (that I know of) is that the accident was his fault and that “I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves,” Woods wrote. “I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family.”

This statement, while it may lead CJ and others like him, to assume that the allegations are true, does not make them true.

Surely Tiger has admitted to much more about his own personal life and deeply regrets his actions.  Much more than CJ has done!…  and CJ and his organization has hurt a heck of a lot more people than Tiger has!  But has CJ ‘fessed up?  Has he issued a remorseful, repentant statement?  IMHO, Tiger has acted more like a man than CJ has.  And CJ is comfortable slinging mud at Tiger???  Wow!

It seems that CJ is more interested in encouraging gossip and promoting “alleged” truths than he is in “thinking the best” and having compassion and empathy for someone who (CJ claims) isn’t a Christian.

Maybe CJ needs to take some of his own advice to heart…  from CJ’s own blog post:

“But Tiger is being hunted and hounded by a far greater foe: the consequences of his sin.

And this should leave us more amazed by grace because there, but for the grace of God, go I.”

CJ…  do you even read your own posts?

Happy (belated) birthday, Canary!!  Hope you had a great day!…  and a new laptop?!!!  NICE!!

I hope you all are enjoying the holidays!

I cringed when I read CJ’s “advice” for a man he’d never even met.  It was like being in a room where someone is talking badly about a person, while not being a “part of the problem or a part of the solution”.  Last time I checked, God was still judge and jury for a human’s soul.  And even then, Jesus said He did not come to judge but to save.  Guess this is an example of a pastor standing in the “very stead of God”.