I wish I was there they day you returned for a visit. I am not sure we would have talked much; we never really did (my fault). But I wonder if we did talk that day you returned, would I have by chance learned the truth and left before the pain I had to endure. I was not a church that day, but I always wonder, if I had been more proactive in wanting to know the truth- how much pain would I have spared myself. Granted we were told to give you space and time to heal – but I have to wonder if that was to keep us from learning the real deal. Perhaps if we pursued the truth we would have experienced being removed by MC or who knows.
It can’t go in to all that happened to us. Though I too went though sleepless nights – thoughts of suicide – depression of a couple of years – I am sure what I experience is less than the pain you felt and still feel.

I wish you all the best,

jim@sgmrefuge.com

There have been many dangerous and very wrong things happening at Kingsway under Gene’s “leadership” and oversight over the years. Just last Dec., Gene oversaw and ran a very ungodly meeting in Chesapeake. The “3 couples” who were trying to help the church in Chesapeake were basically called enemies of the church by Gene. This is actually minor compared with what has taken place in Kingsway, Gene’s church. CJ knows what has happened under Gene’s leadership over the years so one must ask: why is he still an “apostle” and pastor? Men have been removed from their positions within SGM for far less than what Gene has done.

Please be very careful when listening to anything that this man has to say. Can you say “wolf in sheep’s clothing”?

Thanks for the other sites. I am no friend of SGM and spent the last five years at a SGM church. Sorry if I sent off mixed signals in my initial post.

I will have to tak a look at your blog post. Thanks for he clarification

I was just wondering which local Sovereign Grace Ministries church do you pastor?

Steve,

To my knowledge Josh did speak about how his book was taken too far and he was encouraging men to go out with women to grab coffee and just talk. A friend of mine told me about this sermon because this was an area in the former church I attended that was always taught with mixed signals.

My assness is bigger than all of the contestants on “Biggest Loser” put together into one giant ass. I am very proud of that. I have worked very hard to be in the Guinness Book under the biggest ass ever. No condemnation whatsoever. I know God has and does continue to forgive my assness.

Jim,

Thank you for conceeding. You obviously had no choice.

The hard part about reading people’s opinions/posts is that we can never hear the voice, the nuance, the attitude behind the words.  In reading them, we often get them wrong — our reading is always colored by what’s going on in our own world at that moment.   

Have a great day, folks, extending GRACE  — which, by definition, is always unmerited!