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	<title>Comments on: They stand in the very stead of God</title>
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	<description>a haven for castaways, a call for reform</description>
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		<title>By: A Kindred Spirit</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>A Kindred Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re right, Canary! :-(

Brent Detwiler just moved to such an area to plant one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re right, Canary! <img src='http://sgmrefuge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Brent Detwiler just moved to such an area to plant one!</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that some of the earlier churches for sure were small fellowships that had already been started, and then were given as an example of &quot;church planting&quot; after PDI people took over leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that some of the earlier churches for sure were small fellowships that had already been started, and then were given as an example of &#8220;church planting&#8221; after PDI people took over leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>err.... you would be correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>err&#8230;. you would be correct.</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keepinstep,

Hi there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keepinstep,</p>
<p>Hi there!</p>
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		<title>By: keepinstep</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>keepinstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 (Mike):
&gt;Is CJ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 (Mike):<br />
&gt;Is CJ</p>
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		<title>By: Gracie</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Gracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said (post #2) &quot;Notice how this whole message is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said (post #2) &#8220;Notice how this whole message is</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I have more to say on SGM and this most recent e-missive from Vicar Charles Joseph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I have more to say on SGM and this most recent e-missive from Vicar Charles Joseph.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen canary, and I agree Jim, I&#039;ve seen more humility from the pastors who&#039;ve posted here than in three years of SGM pastoral leadership and books on humility and &quot;servant leadership&quot;. I think the definition of servant leadership has also been redefined by SGM - it&#039;s something more along the lines of identifying a need a person has, then meeting that need, whatever it is:financial, emotional, spiritual, etc. And it is this very thing that hooks the needy in - we need to be whole in Christ, and then we will not fall for man&#039;s wisdom and wooing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen canary, and I agree Jim, I&#8217;ve seen more humility from the pastors who&#8217;ve posted here than in three years of SGM pastoral leadership and books on humility and &#8220;servant leadership&#8221;. I think the definition of servant leadership has also been redefined by SGM &#8211; it&#8217;s something more along the lines of identifying a need a person has, then meeting that need, whatever it is:financial, emotional, spiritual, etc. And it is this very thing that hooks the needy in &#8211; we need to be whole in Christ, and then we will not fall for man&#8217;s wisdom and wooing.</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m understanding correctly, SGM thinks that we, the sheeple, cannot handle the word of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m understanding correctly, SGM thinks that we, the sheeple, cannot handle the word of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One extra thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One extra thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;To be honest, I would love to see what would happen with a congregation that had many more with the gift of intercessory prayer than of teaching. That would be like walking on Holy Ground to enter in.&quot;
&lt;/strong&gt;
Amen, Eric! GREAT post!!&lt;strong&gt;

&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;To be honest, I would love to see what would happen with a congregation that had many more with the gift of intercessory prayer than of teaching. That would be like walking on Holy Ground to enter in.&#8221;<br />
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Amen, Eric! GREAT post!!<strong></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, Jim got jokes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, Jim got jokes</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Eric, I hope you didn&#039;t get any bleep on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Eric, I hope you didn&#8217;t get any bleep on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastors are sheeple too!

Didnt even know I were one till one of the peeps started a quetion by saying &quot;Pastor, what do you make of this...&quot;

Scared the bleep out of me, I just love talkin to people about Jesus, and discussing His word with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastors are sheeple too!</p>
<p>Didnt even know I were one till one of the peeps started a quetion by saying &#8220;Pastor, what do you make of this&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Scared the bleep out of me, I just love talkin to people about Jesus, and discussing His word with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric!

I was hoping you would stop by.

Very well said, my friend. Thank you for your input!

(do you guys notice that the majority of the pastors who have posted here today felt no need to identify themselves as such, and the one&#039;s who did, did so without a hint of self importance?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric!</p>
<p>I was hoping you would stop by.</p>
<p>Very well said, my friend. Thank you for your input!</p>
<p>(do you guys notice that the majority of the pastors who have posted here today felt no need to identify themselves as such, and the one&#8217;s who did, did so without a hint of self importance?)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bow low, LOWER, EVEN LOWER Pastor approaching. Bow ye lazy Dogs!!

K thats better. I agree, God does use Priests to speak to His people. I know he used the term Pastor, but I, holding to the priesthood of all believers have had the Lord speak to me through my 9 year old son. And my 93 year old Grandma (before she passed on to glory).

Pastors have a message from the Lord for their congregation, but it is an office no more or less important than any other. To be honest, I would love to see what would happen with a congregation that had many more with the gift of intercessory prayer than of teaching. That would be like walking on Holy Ground to enter in. We are Gods bike delivery drivers. His Angels to our towns and our congregations.

Christ told us to send workers into the field, Pastors are not on par with Moses, it is a completely different office. We are laborers introducing people to Christ and growing with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bow low, LOWER, EVEN LOWER Pastor approaching. Bow ye lazy Dogs!!</p>
<p>K thats better. I agree, God does use Priests to speak to His people. I know he used the term Pastor, but I, holding to the priesthood of all believers have had the Lord speak to me through my 9 year old son. And my 93 year old Grandma (before she passed on to glory).</p>
<p>Pastors have a message from the Lord for their congregation, but it is an office no more or less important than any other. To be honest, I would love to see what would happen with a congregation that had many more with the gift of intercessory prayer than of teaching. That would be like walking on Holy Ground to enter in. We are Gods bike delivery drivers. His Angels to our towns and our congregations.</p>
<p>Christ told us to send workers into the field, Pastors are not on par with Moses, it is a completely different office. We are laborers introducing people to Christ and growing with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Mike,

You&#039;ve shared the heart of a true (under) shepherd.

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Mike,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve shared the heart of a true (under) shepherd.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mike</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/26/they-stand-in-the-very-stead-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Paul said we are helper&#039;s of your joy,

I often tell the congregation that I like Peter and John in Acts 4:13 &quot;and when they perceived the boldness of Peter and John, that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they took note that they had been with Jesus&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Paul said we are helper&#8217;s of your joy,</p>
<p>I often tell the congregation that I like Peter and John in <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+4%3A13" class="bibleref" title="ESV Acts 4:13">Acts 4:13</a> &#8220;and when they perceived the boldness of Peter and John, that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they took note that they had been with Jesus&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wise words, Ryan.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wise words, Ryan.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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