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		<title>By: Suzie Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzie Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSGP...I don&#039;t want to say much because It will quickly expose who I m. But the many days I spent worshipping you your and you fa., where some of sweetest to these days. She had a very abvious Lord for God that many &quot;gleaned&quot; from her as well as me. I wept, as you wept when you guys sat in the back of the church to &quot;worship&quot; Can you just tell Sue thie one thing? She will never live long enough to talk to all the believe all the people who dearly and respected her.She had a kind warm spirit that was only surpassed by her Ferverant Love for the Lord. I love her miss her so much, as do thousands of other Ladies. So do not listen to what the enemy may speak to you this week, but Prepare you and eyes to be filled with the sweet truthfullness of His Heart toward. You are so dearly loved my Sis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSGP&#8230;I don&#8217;t want to say much because It will quickly expose who I m. But the many days I spent worshipping you your and you fa., where some of sweetest to these days. She had a very abvious Lord for God that many &#8220;gleaned&#8221; from her as well as me. I wept, as you wept when you guys sat in the back of the church to &#8220;worship&#8221; Can you just tell Sue thie one thing? She will never live long enough to talk to all the believe all the people who dearly and respected her.She had a kind warm spirit that was only surpassed by her Ferverant Love for the Lord. I love her miss her so much, as do thousands of other Ladies. So do not listen to what the enemy may speak to you this week, but Prepare you and eyes to be filled with the sweet truthfullness of His Heart toward. You are so dearly loved my Sis.</p>
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		<title>By: A Kindred Spirit</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Kindred Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT...a BIG amen!!

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		<title>By: A Kindred Spirit</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Kindred Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traveling Girl, your comment made me think of this...

I have a dear, dear friend that I love to worship with whenever I get the chance.  He&#039;s an older gentlemen, not &quot;showy&quot; at all, very humble and quiet in spirit; but it&#039;s OBVIOUS he is in total communion with the Lord and in a state of worship. (Of course, worship is more than just song, but I&#039;m referencing song.)

He worships with his eyes closed - always - never an exception; even when it&#039;s a new song and he doesn&#039;t know the words - he will just listen.  I mentioned that I observed that particular trait about him one time and he looked at me amused.  He told me that if he looked at the worship team he would actually be distracted from the Lord and caught up in all that was taking place on stage. 

Funny, we now call it a stage...we used to call it a &quot;choir loft.&quot;   I grew up in a church with a choir in a choir loft.  I never remember being distracted by the choir - they were all dressed alike in choir robes, singing beautifully (and spirited), holding their little black binders of music sheets.       

I love my current church, and the &quot;praise and worship team,&quot; but I do find myself being distracted.   I know there&#039;s a difference between &quot;corporate&quot; worship and personal worship, but somehow corporate worship seemed more focused when the &quot;worship team&quot; wasn&#039;t &quot;front and center&quot;, on a &quot;stage&quot;, in a kind of &quot;performance&quot; mode. 

 (Btw,  I&#039;m NOT anti-contemporary Christian music.  I have a CD case full of it in my car.  However I do love the old hymns, as well.)   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traveling Girl, your comment made me think of this&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a dear, dear friend that I love to worship with whenever I get the chance.  He&#8217;s an older gentlemen, not &#8220;showy&#8221; at all, very humble and quiet in spirit; but it&#8217;s OBVIOUS he is in total communion with the Lord and in a state of worship. (Of course, worship is more than just song, but I&#8217;m referencing song.)</p>
<p>He worships with his eyes closed &#8211; always &#8211; never an exception; even when it&#8217;s a new song and he doesn&#8217;t know the words &#8211; he will just listen.  I mentioned that I observed that particular trait about him one time and he looked at me amused.  He told me that if he looked at the worship team he would actually be distracted from the Lord and caught up in all that was taking place on stage. </p>
<p>Funny, we now call it a stage&#8230;we used to call it a &#8220;choir loft.&#8221;   I grew up in a church with a choir in a choir loft.  I never remember being distracted by the choir &#8211; they were all dressed alike in choir robes, singing beautifully (and spirited), holding their little black binders of music sheets.       </p>
<p>I love my current church, and the &#8221;praise and worship team,&#8221; but I do find myself being distracted.   I know there&#8217;s a difference between &#8221;corporate&#8221; worship and personal worship, but somehow corporate worship seemed more focused when the &#8220;worship team&#8221; wasn&#8217;t &#8221;front and center&#8221;, on a &#8221;stage&#8221;, in a kind of &#8221;performance&#8221; mode. </p>
<p> (Btw,  I&#8217;m NOT anti-contemporary Christian music.  I have a CD case full of it in my car.  However I do love the old hymns, as well.)   </p>
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		<title>By: RT</title>
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		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends--

What is most interesting in all the SGM stories is this identical thread, especially among us sisters:  realize abuses at SGM, get up the courage to leave SGM, curl up in fetal position on Sunday mornings, viscerally react to SGM music, fear leadership in other worshiping bodies.

This is more important than many realize.  To have that sort of emotional reaction?  Just not the norm in your typical &quot;just not the church for me&quot; church-leaving.

When we visited SGM churches, (I&#039;m an apostate Mormon, Smith-family, high cult-radar settings), the hair on my neck stood up.  The music seemed too designed to me, too intent on taking me somewhere emotionally.  (I prefer very contemporary music, old hymns, so it wasn&#039;t the style--rabbit trail:  have y&#039;all investigated Indelible Grace music?).

We are told to gather together for worship.  Church offices are described in the Word.  However we interpret that is fine.

But look what happens to many post-SGM.  Gathering together, trusting elders, worshiping with music becomes terrifying.

SGM supporters, open your eyes.  WHO IS GIVING THE CUP OF WATER, AND WHO IS CAUSING THE LITTLE ONES TO SIN???  

Mark 9:40 ff:  I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.   And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.

I see a dripping ladle in the hands of many on this site.  But I&#039;m sensing a millstone approaching for some pastors.  What have you done to cause the beloved of Jesus to be so hurt and afraid of his own people?

Shame.  Shame.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends&#8211;</p>
<p>What is most interesting in all the SGM stories is this identical thread, especially among us sisters:  realize abuses at SGM, get up the courage to leave SGM, curl up in fetal position on Sunday mornings, viscerally react to SGM music, fear leadership in other worshiping bodies.</p>
<p>This is more important than many realize.  To have that sort of emotional reaction?  Just not the norm in your typical &#8220;just not the church for me&#8221; church-leaving.</p>
<p>When we visited SGM churches, (I&#8217;m an apostate Mormon, Smith-family, high cult-radar settings), the hair on my neck stood up.  The music seemed too designed to me, too intent on taking me somewhere emotionally.  (I prefer very contemporary music, old hymns, so it wasn&#8217;t the style&#8211;rabbit trail:  have y&#8217;all investigated Indelible Grace music?).</p>
<p>We are told to gather together for worship.  Church offices are described in the Word.  However we interpret that is fine.</p>
<p>But look what happens to many post-SGM.  Gathering together, trusting elders, worshiping with music becomes terrifying.</p>
<p>SGM supporters, open your eyes.  WHO IS GIVING THE CUP OF WATER, AND WHO IS CAUSING THE LITTLE ONES TO SIN???  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Mark+9%3A40" class="bibleref" title="ESV Mark 9:40">Mark 9:40</a> ff:  I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.   And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.</p>
<p>I see a dripping ladle in the hands of many on this site.  But I&#8217;m sensing a millstone approaching for some pastors.  What have you done to cause the beloved of Jesus to be so hurt and afraid of his own people?</p>
<p>Shame.  Shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Traveling Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traveling Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that after we left (after being involved for 16 or so years) it took awhile to be able to, much less want to, worship. Go to church? No way! But in time (and each one of us has a different time table) I was able to start worshiping God again. It was through drawing closer to Him on a personal basis and immersing myself in His Word that He was able to heal me and bring me to a place of worship.  It was a new  and deeper worship than before. Now I was motivated to worship Him for who He was and what He had done for me--not because the music or the band or worship team. I could let myself go and immerse myself in Him. I could worship the One who made me and loved me more than any one else--no matter what I had done or said.
Give her time, encourage her, love her. God will finish the good work He has begun in her.
I recommend she listen to whatever music that touches her. I love Celtic music, it stirs me deep in my soul. But, I am part Irish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that after we left (after being involved for 16 or so years) it took awhile to be able to, much less want to, worship. Go to church? No way! But in time (and each one of us has a different time table) I was able to start worshiping God again. It was through drawing closer to Him on a personal basis and immersing myself in His Word that He was able to heal me and bring me to a place of worship.  It was a new  and deeper worship than before. Now I was motivated to worship Him for who He was and what He had done for me&#8211;not because the music or the band or worship team. I could let myself go and immerse myself in Him. I could worship the One who made me and loved me more than any one else&#8211;no matter what I had done or said.<br />
Give her time, encourage her, love her. God will finish the good work He has begun in her.<br />
I recommend she listen to whatever music that touches her. I love Celtic music, it stirs me deep in my soul. But, I am part Irish!</p>
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		<title>By: Irv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs FSGP - Mrs. Irv would be glad to visit but she is probably not as gracious as I am.  She (unfortunately sometimes) always tells the truth. Let us know how we can stand with you of if you would like make contact with Mrs. Irv. We do feel your pain but also the excitement for you because there is life and life abundantly  after SGM / PDI.

Video Skype is outstanding. I work with my partners in different parts of the world on a daily basis. And it is cheap ---- well like it is free -- better than cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs FSGP &#8211; Mrs. Irv would be glad to visit but she is probably not as gracious as I am.  She (unfortunately sometimes) always tells the truth. Let us know how we can stand with you of if you would like make contact with Mrs. Irv. We do feel your pain but also the excitement for you because there is life and life abundantly  after SGM / PDI.</p>
<p>Video Skype is outstanding. I work with my partners in different parts of the world on a daily basis. And it is cheap &#8212;- well like it is free &#8212; better than cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gracie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSGP,
I remember how my personal worship was shut down after our PDI experience, and I vividly remember the day I realized He had brought me through and I could worship freely again.  Praying for your dear wife. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSGP,<br />
I remember how my personal worship was shut down after our PDI experience, and I vividly remember the day I realized He had brought me through and I could worship freely again.  Praying for your dear wife. </p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a way that we could have a video &quot;chat&quot; with several people, that would be neat! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there was a way that we could have a video &#8220;chat&#8221; with several people, that would be neat! <img src='http://sgmrefuge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kindred,
Thanks for the compliment.  You have been such a big help to others on this blog.  Just wanted you to know that.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kindred,<br />
Thanks for the compliment.  You have been such a big help to others on this blog.  Just wanted you to know that.  <img src='http://sgmrefuge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Square Peg, your &quot;fetal position&quot; is how I felt but it took about two years to set in.  I guess the first few years were exciting because of the new found freedom.  

FSGP, what is happening to your wife is to be expected.  Love and grace plus the Holy Spirit will get her through.  I still don&#039;t understand what true worship means, or maybe I find more of that in the quiet.  The Lord is going to be faithful to turn this experience into good for Mrs. Former.  It just takes time.  All us ladies are here if she wants to talk.  I&#039;ll be praying especially for her this week!  

Because you both were involved in leadership, Mrs. Former might struggle more because she was in more deeply.  Wonder if Mrs. Irv can help?  Irv was a former pastor as well.  Maybe there are more specific problems that they would both understand better.  I am so grateful that my husband and I were only within the deeper &quot;circle&quot; for a short time - the damage too our lives would have been much greater if we had stayed.  Those of you who saw more might need a different sort of counsel than those of us who knew instinctively that something was wrong but couldn&#039;t prove anything.  Just a thought.  God bless! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Square Peg, your &#8220;fetal position&#8221; is how I felt but it took about two years to set in.  I guess the first few years were exciting because of the new found freedom.  </p>
<p>FSGP, what is happening to your wife is to be expected.  Love and grace plus the Holy Spirit will get her through.  I still don&#8217;t understand what true worship means, or maybe I find more of that in the quiet.  The Lord is going to be faithful to turn this experience into good for Mrs. Former.  It just takes time.  All us ladies are here if she wants to talk.  I&#8217;ll be praying especially for her this week!  </p>
<p>Because you both were involved in leadership, Mrs. Former might struggle more because she was in more deeply.  Wonder if Mrs. Irv can help?  Irv was a former pastor as well.  Maybe there are more specific problems that they would both understand better.  I am so grateful that my husband and I were only within the deeper &#8220;circle&#8221; for a short time &#8211; the damage too our lives would have been much greater if we had stayed.  Those of you who saw more might need a different sort of counsel than those of us who knew instinctively that something was wrong but couldn&#8217;t prove anything.  Just a thought.  God bless! </p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, man, that still happens to me but it has grown less painful.

If she wants to email to talk with someone, I am available (just let me know she&#039;s Mrs. FSGP or some sort of notice so it doesn&#039;t find its was into my junk mailbox.) &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:db604406@wcupa.edu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;db604406@wcupa.edu&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man, that still happens to me but it has grown less painful.</p>
<p>If she wants to email to talk with someone, I am available (just let me know she&#8217;s Mrs. FSGP or some sort of notice so it doesn&#8217;t find its was into my junk mailbox.) <a href="mailto:db604406@wcupa.edu" rel="nofollow">db604406@wcupa.edu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSGP
I am right there with your wife and so is my daughter. I wish there was a place we could all meet face to face and support each other. This site and Canary&#039;s site help alot but I still can&#039;t bring myself to listen to many songs not just SGM. I hope I&#039;m not scaring you. I&#039;ve been gone about 18 months and it&#039;s still hard. I just got invited by a friend to go to her church&#039;s women&#039;s retreat. I was touched that she thought of me but that is the last thing I want to do at this point. I feel like my goldens do when they go to the vet.  I feel so &quot;unspiritual&quot; yet wanting to feel &quot;spiritual&#039;. I&#039;ll be praying for your wife. As a side note, my daughter was told at a Celebration in Indiana, Pa. through a prophetic word that &quot;she was seen as a beautiful flower in a desert. That she would stand out and be a mighty influence.&quot; I don&#039;t think the person saying this thought my daughter would be in the position she is now (out of sgm). She&#039;s using that prophecy  on her blog. I have to be honest and say I&#039;m not sure how I feel about prophesy but it&#039;s almost amusing to see how she&#039;s using it to tell the truth about sgm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSGP<br />
I am right there with your wife and so is my daughter. I wish there was a place we could all meet face to face and support each other. This site and Canary&#8217;s site help alot but I still can&#8217;t bring myself to listen to many songs not just SGM. I hope I&#8217;m not scaring you. I&#8217;ve been gone about 18 months and it&#8217;s still hard. I just got invited by a friend to go to her church&#8217;s women&#8217;s retreat. I was touched that she thought of me but that is the last thing I want to do at this point. I feel like my goldens do when they go to the vet.  I feel so &#8220;unspiritual&#8221; yet wanting to feel &#8220;spiritual&#8217;. I&#8217;ll be praying for your wife. As a side note, my daughter was told at a Celebration in Indiana, Pa. through a prophetic word that &#8220;she was seen as a beautiful flower in a desert. That she would stand out and be a mighty influence.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think the person saying this thought my daughter would be in the position she is now (out of sgm). She&#8217;s using that prophecy  on her blog. I have to be honest and say I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about prophesy but it&#8217;s almost amusing to see how she&#8217;s using it to tell the truth about sgm.</p>
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		<title>By: Azaziah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azaziah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSGP-I will pray for the missus. I too, did not want to listen to music (worship) or go to a fellowship anywhere. it was months before i was even willing to visit other fellowships. It has been over a year and i am still suffering from the side effects of leaving. It is not as bad as it was when i first left but still feel marked. There are men and women who love the Lord who will help her heal from all that has happened, but for me it was the Word and the Holy Spirit restored to pre-emminence in my life that helped me to start walking down the road to wholeness. Have faith in Jesus!! He brought her out to be the woman he always intended!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSGP-I will pray for the missus. I too, did not want to listen to music (worship) or go to a fellowship anywhere. it was months before i was even willing to visit other fellowships. It has been over a year and i am still suffering from the side effects of leaving. It is not as bad as it was when i first left but still feel marked. There are men and women who love the Lord who will help her heal from all that has happened, but for me it was the Word and the Holy Spirit restored to pre-emminence in my life that helped me to start walking down the road to wholeness. Have faith in Jesus!! He brought her out to be the woman he always intended!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Square Peg</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19660</link>
		<dc:creator>Square Peg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Former,

The Missus is not alone.  If it weren&#039;t for the Holy Spirit, I&#039;d still be curled up in a fetal position under the covers on Sunday mornings.  He promised never to leave or forsake us.  For a while, He just curled up there with me and held me in His everlasting arms as my heart and mind went numb.  I wanted nothing to do with church or the music I&#039;d once loved.  After a time, He took me by the hand and led me, blindfolded, to places I&#039;d never dreamed of. 

When it comes to music, fabulous stuff was written way before SGM, outside of SGM, and will continue.   Listen to good stuff, wherever it comes from, whichever genre it represents, if it ministers to you.  If it doesn&#039;t -- change the station!

Y&#039;all are in our prayers -- and in His arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Former,</p>
<p>The Missus is not alone.  If it weren&#8217;t for the Holy Spirit, I&#8217;d still be curled up in a fetal position under the covers on Sunday mornings.  He promised never to leave or forsake us.  For a while, He just curled up there with me and held me in His everlasting arms as my heart and mind went numb.  I wanted nothing to do with church or the music I&#8217;d once loved.  After a time, He took me by the hand and led me, blindfolded, to places I&#8217;d never dreamed of. </p>
<p>When it comes to music, fabulous stuff was written way before SGM, outside of SGM, and will continue.   Listen to good stuff, wherever it comes from, whichever genre it represents, if it ministers to you.  If it doesn&#8217;t &#8212; change the station!</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all are in our prayers &#8212; and in His arms.</p>
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		<title>By: A Kindred Spirit</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19658</link>
		<dc:creator>A Kindred Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former, I think SGM affects a lot of people that way - I&#039;ll be praying.

It might help for her to chat with Canary.  Canary has a gift for ministering to women.  Her contact info is listed on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former, I think SGM affects a lot of people that way &#8211; I&#8217;ll be praying.</p>
<p>It might help for her to chat with Canary.  Canary has a gift for ministering to women.  Her contact info is listed on the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19656</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;ll be ok, she&#039;s just shedding some of the old stuff. As long as she has time to spend with Jesus without pressure, the Holy Spirit will guide her into where He wants her.
There&#039;s lots of good worship music out there to listen to, and if that&#039;s even too much right now, God can use other kind of music to draw her to Himself - classical, celtic, folk, etc.  Spending time in nature and community &amp; cultural activities helps, too.
Just trust the Holy Spirit and let HIM guide her, no pressure is best.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;ll be ok, she&#8217;s just shedding some of the old stuff. As long as she has time to spend with Jesus without pressure, the Holy Spirit will guide her into where He wants her.<br />
There&#8217;s lots of good worship music out there to listen to, and if that&#8217;s even too much right now, God can use other kind of music to draw her to Himself &#8211; classical, celtic, folk, etc.  Spending time in nature and community &amp; cultural activities helps, too.<br />
Just trust the Holy Spirit and let HIM guide her, no pressure is best.<br />
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		<title>By: Defended</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19655</link>
		<dc:creator>Defended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh maaaan.  Prayers, for sure, for Mrs. Former.
And theres lots of us girls here who would be glad to just nod, knowingly, or encourage her if she was wanting some.  The truth of the matter is that there IS a sad deprogramming and decompression needed by all of us in my less-than-humble opinion.

The music thing is completely understandable.  I kind of vascillate there myself somewhat.  When I hear Chris L&#039;s voice singing &quot;how high and how wide&quot; is God&#039;s love for us on &quot;Chosen Treasure&quot; I celebrate that truth yet grieve for how that is NOT the nature of the worship songs we heard as we were leaving.  &quot;Grace upon Grace&quot; ?  yeah, no.

anyway, I want to invite Mrs. Former to email anytime, or just know that she is being lifted up in caring prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh maaaan.  Prayers, for sure, for Mrs. Former.<br />
And theres lots of us girls here who would be glad to just nod, knowingly, or encourage her if she was wanting some.  The truth of the matter is that there IS a sad deprogramming and decompression needed by all of us in my less-than-humble opinion.</p>
<p>The music thing is completely understandable.  I kind of vascillate there myself somewhat.  When I hear Chris L&#8217;s voice singing &#8220;how high and how wide&#8221; is God&#8217;s love for us on &#8220;Chosen Treasure&#8221; I celebrate that truth yet grieve for how that is NOT the nature of the worship songs we heard as we were leaving.  &#8220;Grace upon Grace&#8221; ?  yeah, no.</p>
<p>anyway, I want to invite Mrs. Former to email anytime, or just know that she is being lifted up in caring prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: FSGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FSGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends,
 
Missus Former ain&#039;t doing so great post-SG, spiritually. More of a delayed reaction compared to this writer.  She recently talked about how she can&#039;t listen to the old SG music; it evokes too many memories of things gone bad.  Has little desire to darken a church door.
 
Appreciating your prayers,
Former SG Pastor
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends,<br />
 <br />
Missus Former ain&#8217;t doing so great post-SG, spiritually. More of a delayed reaction compared to this writer.  She recently talked about how she can&#8217;t listen to the old SG music; it evokes too many memories of things gone bad.  Has little desire to darken a church door.<br />
 <br />
Appreciating your prayers,<br />
Former SG Pastor<br />
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		<title>By: Stunned</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19344</link>
		<dc:creator>Stunned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PK-ay... oh PKayyyy.  Have you thought of taking on a blog lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PK-ay&#8230; oh PKayyyy.  Have you thought of taking on a blog lately?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://sgmrefuge.com/2008/06/19/thursdays-are-for-prayer-and-praise/comment-page-8/#comment-19343</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stunned-you can try to talk PK into taking it off my hands  :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunned-you can try to talk PK into taking it off my hands  <img src='http://sgmrefuge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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